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Hi,

I just bought a new car and want to put a sound system in it. I currently own an Alpine SBS-104BP 10" sub (200 rms; 400 peak; 4 ohms). I want to get a set of speakers and amp that will work with the sub. Currently, I have a Pioneer 160-watt (max) system connected to (I believe) 4 mid-range speakers and 2 tweeters (Scion xB 2009).

Here are the questions I have:

Does every amplifier channel the sound to the appropriate drivers? I would assume that it sends the low frequencies to the sub, mid-range to the speakers, high-frequencies to the tweeters.

What would be a good amplifier to get, in terms of specs and brands?

Will my current stereo be able to utilize my sub to the fullest extent? Should I be looking to upgrade the current speakers / stereo?

Thanks!

Epic

im having trouble with what your asking
if you get a 5 channel amp, your answer is yes for the splitting frequencies, but it requires a one time user input to figure out what sounds good

what you need:
you have a head unit, fine
front (component, tweeter on dash, woofer in door) and rear speakers (full range woofers/speakers) (match RMS values)
next match an amp to the outputs, the front will be closer to 2-3 ohms, and the rear will prolly be 4 ohms, so find an amp that will give you the output your looking for

no the amp for the speakers is a 4 channel, and the sub is a mono... BUTTTTT they make 5 channel amps, (2 for front, 2 for rear, 1 for sub!!!)

i would suggest talking to someone who installs stuff before purchasing, scions are KNOWN to be a pain in the butt!!!

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The Speakers sound great. That is what is really matters when you are looking for a Speaker set. There are plenty of specs, but I don't have the time or the inclination to get into it. Setup your speakers where they need to be, get a decent receiver and I have no doubt you will be pleased with these speakers. I have been enjoying the speakers for a month now and have been impressed with their performance in movies, television and music. I will say I paired my Onkyo speakers with an Onkyo receiver.

Outstanding solution for entry-level home theater well worth the price of the ticket!

We were wanting to throw together a sort of "auxiliary" home theater for the kids to give them somewhere to go when they didn't want to be under Mom & Dad's elbows (and vice versa!). While certainly we wanted gear that would last and perform well we also had minimal extraneous budget to work with so we feared the available options would be, well, lacking to say the least. 

The entire setup includes a Sony Bravia KDL-32L5000 32" LCD, a Sony DVP-NS77H upconverting DVD player, and the kids' PS2 which still enjoys regular use. The Bravia LCD was chosen for its connectivity options and the price I found it for just prior to Christmas at our local Wal-Mart. The DVD player was chosen for its solid reviews, Bravia-Sync capability with Sony flatpanel monitors, as well as price; it was scored in a closeout sale locally. 

For sound reproduction for the above display equipment the Sony STR-DH800 A/V receiver was chosen for its on-board surround decoding options and the ability to control itself (obviously), the TV, and the DVD player from a single remote while negating the necessity for buying a third-party universal remote control. Price again was a factor as I had a merchandise credit which had been pending for some time with another online retailer and the price I was able to obtain this particular receiver for after deducting that credit was all but irresistible. 

And last but certainly not least the Onkyo SKS-HT540 7.1 surround sound speaker package was chosen for its 7.1 channel compatibility with 8 separate channels worth of speakers including the active subwoofer, mostly positive reviews online, and finally (our mantra, if you will) price. It was, hands-down, THE best available option, both locally and online, for under $240/shipped brand-spankin'-new. Though not an up-to-date model the expected level of performance compared to the cost far outweighed the fact of this choice not being the "latest and greatest" thing available. The inclusion of the SKS-HT540 for this setup in conjunction with the above supporting gear allowed us to complete our project well under the target budget even after purchasing all the necessary cabling to tie it all together. 

First please let me address a couple of items contained within the negative review prominently displayed when you choose the reviews option for this item. That reviewer claims that the speaker cabinets for each of the front three main speakers (front left, center channel, and front right) are a full five inches shallower than the given dimensions as per Onkyo's product description. According to the manufacturer's website each of the large front main speakers have a depth of 7 7/8". My own measurements indicate a depth of 6 1/4" not including the baffle on which the speaker's three separate drivers are mounted or the removable cloth grilles. Including those latter two items gives a measurement of a bit over 7" deep. Each of these three cabinets, while not the same exact dimensions indicated by the manufacturer, remains of an appropriate size for the type of cabinet used with the specific drivers chosen. 

The four surround speakers ARE significantly shallower than three front main speakers. However, the surround units use an acoustic suspension alignment (sealed cabinets) as opposed to the bass reflex alignment ("vented" or "ported" cabinets) utilized by the fronts. Combine that with the fact that the drivers in the surround units are both physically smaller (3 1/8th inch mid-woofer Vs. 5" mid-woofer) and numerically smaller (single driver Vs. dual-driver) than the front anyone with half a clue about speaker enclosure design knows this makes perfect sense. 

Additionally the remark regarding the back panel of the active subwoofer unit displaying a claim of 130w while the product specifications claiming 230 watts of dynamic amplifier output is comparing apples to oranges. 

Upon inspection of my own unit I located a specification on the back panel of the subwoofer indicating operating parameters of 120v A/C current @ 60Hz / 140 watts. This labeling is in compliance with Underwriter's Laboratories' product listing certification. The 140 watts value has nothing to do with unit output power and is indicative of maximum rated power consumption. 
Additionally the 230 watt rating given in the product description IS provided as a "dynamic" output power capability. Anyone with half a clue about audio equipment would understand that in reference to amplifier power the terms dynamic, maximum, and peak are generally interchangeable and are values good for nothing more than marketing. These values are normally in no way equal to the "RMS" or "nominal" output wattage which will be a considerably more accurate representation of the actual real-world output levels the end user could expect to enjoy. While the actual RMS wattage ratings are not provided for some reason by Onkyo the 230 watt claim of dynamic power would lead one to believe the RMS figures are more along the lines of somewhere between 100 and 150 watts. This level of power is perfectly adequate for a 10" driver and is a fairly standard power level for active subwoofers anywhere near this pricepoint. 

"Whew!" 

"Having said all of that - how do the blasted things sound?!?" 

For the cost involved they sound absolutely fantastic. Please be aware that I'm fairly discriminatory when it comes to audio gear and the equipment used in our main family room is of a very different flavor (and pricepoint) than the item currently being reviewed. After running the receiver's auto-calibrate feature and then making some further tweaks beyond that I was pleasantly surprised at these Onkyos. 

During movie playback effects, dialogue, and soundtrack were faithfully reproduced and located properly. The machine-gun fire beyond Forrest Gump as he is running from the Viet Cong ambush attack was right behind you and the sounds of bullet projectiles ricocheting of off trees is unmistakable. The sounds of things flying apart (cars, military equipment, buildings, etc) during Megatron and Optimus Prime's final fight in The Transformers are enveloping and somewhat frightening! Perhaps unexpected is a better term here. There is an advantage this Onkyo set has over other sets at (or in many cases significantly above) this price point - the surround speakers, all four of them, are a 2-way design (separate mid-woofer and tweeter) rather than incorporating the single full-range driver configuration that is found in the majority of entry-level surround groups and a surprising percentage of higher-end units! 

During music playback the lowest registers of mid-bass did admittedly feel a smidge thin. The bass solo in the live cut of Pink Floyd's "Another Brick In The Wall, Pt2" on their double-disc 'Pulse' set sounded like it wanted larger drivers reverberating its insistence. The drums in "I Don't Care Anymore" by Genesis sounded slightly far away. Otherwise I found the set right on the money from one end of the audible spectrum to the other. The highs from the floating tweeters in the front mains were bright without being strained. Midrange vocals sounded true. The lowest octaves being provided by the 10" sub were accurate and well-blended. 

Even with my minor complaints aside at this price I truly do not think there is a better alternative for a true 7.1 system available. 

The one possible con is simply this setup's size. It will require a considerable investment in your space's real estate in comparison to other 'compact' surround options. It isn't designed to blend in with your decor like a Bose system and these speakers are substantially larger than the speakers commonly found in an entry-level Home Theater In A Box-type set. Please do review the dimensions provided by the manufacturer and know that they are "mostly" accurate so keep that in mind when making a purchase decision. If you want something easy to tuck away in a corner or hide in a bookcase this Onkyo set is not for you. If you do not mind the necessary space sacrifice and having a 'compact' surround sound set that will still, without a doubt, get noticed, then please give these some consideration for your budget surround needs. 

Review Edit/Add-On: Further Impressions... 

After living with the Onkyo SKS-HT540 for a bit now and having had the opportunity to really get the receiver driving them tweaked to what I believe is the best possible setting(s) in place for various modes I'm further impressed by this speaker set. 

In my haste to get all this gear set up for the kids so I could get them out of our hair, so to speak, I ran the auto-calibrate in the receiver and made further EQ tweaks to enhance the settings put in place by the auto-processing. I did not, however, delve all that deeply into ALL of the available settings. After digging a bit further into the receiver's menu structure I located some additional adjustments that needed, well, adjusting. After the necessary tweaks were made these Onkyos sound that much better to us all and seriously has the wife questioning the wisdom in having spent as much as we have on our main family home theater! 

A couple of observations - first is the fact that the surrounds on the mid-woofer drivers for the front main and center channel speakers are rubber rather than pressed foam as will be found in most "All-In-One" surround speaker packages in this price-range. This should offer both increased longevity of the speakers overall as well as give the speakers themselves enhanced control over driver excursion when being pushed to extreme volumes if that happens to be your thing. I do not have a peak-to-peak excursion measurement available but simply watching the speakers move with the naked eye would lead one to believe that woofer travel is actually noteworthy for drivers of this size. The amount of air being moved through the rear-firing port would further fuel that opinion. 

The second observation brings along with it a word of caution to prospective buyers - these speakers are not particularly efficient. The specs provided by Onkyo indicate a speaker sensitivity for the three front (left/right/center) channel speakers and the four surround speakers to be 86dB and 82dB, respectively. What this means, for those of you whom I am speaking Greek to now, is that these speakers, while rated at 130w maximum input wattage simply will not perform at optimal levels on lower-powered sources. The receiver we're driving these Onkyos with, as mentioned previously, is a Sony STR-DH800 which is rated at 100w per output channel and this rating is given at full bandwidth output from 20Hz to 20kHz. Be mindful of receivers whose output ratings are given as "XXX watts worth of output @ 1kHz" or some other specific frequency rather than the entire range of average human hearing. Receivers rated in this fashion are (generally) not going to offer the same level of output across the entire range of audible frequencies as it does for the specific frequency used for the rating to begin with. 

You'll also want to ensure that the wattage output per channel falls somewhere in the upper third of the input rating for these speakers. 

All in all? My opinion that these Onkyos are a fantastic buy at under $250/shipped has not been dulled whatsoever after using them for awhile - pick these up if your living space allows for these to be included as a part!

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